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focusing on energy, independent skills that will allow people to succeed, a trade that works for america, deficit reducti reduction, and being a champion for small business, which is not what the president has done. and as we get in the debates it will be critical to show the contrast between governor romney and the president. the good thing is wasserman schultz down played the president's expectations as expected by the democrats, but he is the gifted speaker. the problem is, he does not have the gift of a positive record to run on. the economy is in the toilet and t current news we have on informed policy is troubling. the administration knew this was a terrorist attack within the first 24 hours yet they continue to say this is the result of a video in a movie trailer, put ambassador rice out there being extremely dishonest with the american people. that's troubling. and those troops will come out in the debates. >> alice, we've gone to war with countries saying they were responsible for nerch when they really weren't. i'm talking about iraq. give the white house a little leeway here on figurin
focusing on energy, independent skills that will allow people to succeed, a trade that works for america, deficit reducti reduction, and being a champion for small business, which is not what the president has done. and as we get in the debates it will be critical to show the contrast between governor romney and the president. the good thing is wasserman schultz down played the president's expectations as expected by the democrats, but he is the gifted speaker. the problem is, he does not have...
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>> do we want four more years of trillion-dollar deficits? >> no. >> so, ben, mitt romney has raised $6 million to president obama's $2.8 million. the super pacs as i know you're aware has fire power to release. when that happens in conjunction with the debates, do you fear an even tighter race here? >> well, mitt romney has to pre sent a plan. that's what these advertisements won't be able to do. the burden is on him to explain why returning to the same economic policies that caused the crisis in the first place, more tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, stripping it over wall street will somehow unleash job creation when it hasn't in the past. ultimately they here not building on the ground. we've been on the ground for the past four years. our organizers and supporters talking to their neighbors and communities. they may be able to build a 72-hour turnkey operation but they won't have the same roots in the community that we've been building over the past four years. that will be stronger than any negative advertisement on the air fo
>> do we want four more years of trillion-dollar deficits? >> no. >> so, ben, mitt romney has raised $6 million to president obama's $2.8 million. the super pacs as i know you're aware has fire power to release. when that happens in conjunction with the debates, do you fear an even tighter race here? >> well, mitt romney has to pre sent a plan. that's what these advertisements won't be able to do. the burden is on him to explain why returning to the same economic...
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>> we're going to do it by responsibly dealing with these deficits while leaving money to invest and those things we need to grow -- education, research and development, clean energy technology. >> those aren't sort of specific proposals. what i'm asking you is -- >> let's talk about -- >> they haven't passed. >> 100,000 new math and science teachers. we need that to moveorward as a country. >> that's a goal though, right? >> educating, training two million new workers in our community colleges in conjunction with business to fill jobs that are open right now. boosting american manufacturing by ending the tax break that sends jobs overseas and giving tax incentives to companies that start manufacturing businesses here. these are specific tangible proposals and, candy, i believe that they will pass because i believe the american people are supportive of that. >> but they haven't passed. >> a jury will render verdict november 6th. >> no, they haven't. >> for two years jobs -- >> some of the specific proposals haven't, but, candy, think about the logical extension of what you're saying.
>> we're going to do it by responsibly dealing with these deficits while leaving money to invest and those things we need to grow -- education, research and development, clean energy technology. >> those aren't sort of specific proposals. what i'm asking you is -- >> let's talk about -- >> they haven't passed. >> 100,000 new math and science teachers. we need that to moveorward as a country. >> that's a goal though, right? >> educating, training two...
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tell you that that is just not the kind of inconsistency that he can afford at thi point given the deficits he faces. >> your thoughts, john. >> well, look, chris, i just think he's in annten tie he bal along. the bottom line on mitt romney is he's proud of his massachusetts health care law. there's part of him that wants to defend it, there's part of him that's always wanted to defend it, and he found himself running in a republican primary where he couldn't defend it forth rightly as ink wt . het woha wand to e twisted himentz up in a lot of knots. i think there's some theoretical way in which you could make a federalist argument but he hasn't made that argument consistently either. he should have stood up and said the individual mandate is a consvative policy. it was inventedt the heritage fodati andmbd conservatives as recently as a decade ago. co-have made the argument for pla health care and said that's what the conservative position was. he didn't have the guts to do that. he's ended up in this bizarre position where he's had to pirouette on this crazy tightrope wherhe says my reut t
tell you that that is just not the kind of inconsistency that he can afford at thi point given the deficits he faces. >> your thoughts, john. >> well, look, chris, i just think he's in annten tie he bal along. the bottom line on mitt romney is he's proud of his massachusetts health care law. there's part of him that wants to defend it, there's part of him that's always wanted to defend it, and he found himself running in a republican primary where he couldn't defend it forth rightly...
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a $1 trillion deficit, to be precise. so ladies and gentlemen, these guys talk about the national debt. they talk about this, you know -- and what they did generated the slowest growth in private sector jobs since world war ii. it gave us this great recession. and what they haven't told you is, what they've been unwilling to do, to do anything about it. here's the deal, folks. we laid out a $4 trillion debt reduction plan over the next ten years. $4 trillion. we've already passed a trillion of it. ladies and gentlemen, these guys vote against everything. no, no, no, i really mean it. not only do they say they don't like our plan. okay, i get that. you don't like our plan. what's your plan? >> vice president biden there today in florida. still to come, why dthe debate n denver is essentially do or die for mitt romney. we'll talk about that. >>> first, though, the very unladylike game of politics and why that guy seems to be surviving. [ male announcer ] for the dreamers... and those well grounded. for what's around this co
a $1 trillion deficit, to be precise. so ladies and gentlemen, these guys talk about the national debt. they talk about this, you know -- and what they did generated the slowest growth in private sector jobs since world war ii. it gave us this great recession. and what they haven't told you is, what they've been unwilling to do, to do anything about it. here's the deal, folks. we laid out a $4 trillion debt reduction plan over the next ten years. $4 trillion. we've already passed a trillion of...
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you want to do this with the deficit. i want to do that. it's like the reason i want to do this is because i have a different set of values than republicans. >> what are those values? spell them out. >> using govnment as a coalgrvece protect the safety net and to come together and invest in innovation, education, infrastructure. we're in it together. versus the ryan budgetwhich us aa stand-in first puaninwhsa weonal gid of government and give you a voucher, find medicare on your own. here comes romney and he sort of fits the mold. he's a 1 percenter. he shows no empathy, even before the 47%. >> a pure market guy. >> they use bain, from the beginning, as cynthia noted, as a value. he's out there making money. i'm thinking of wider ames and goals. >> a n bloomberg goathat has president obama leading mitt ey bsix ints natiolly. onbig ason, half of the polls say they have an unfavorable view of mitt romney. bloomberg reports, this is a september high for a presidential challenger in the last three decades. bloomberg quotes a 40-year-old insuran
you want to do this with the deficit. i want to do that. it's like the reason i want to do this is because i have a different set of values than republicans. >> what are those values? spell them out. >> using govnment as a coalgrvece protect the safety net and to come together and invest in innovation, education, infrastructure. we're in it together. versus the ryan budgetwhich us aa stand-in first puaninwhsa weonal gid of government and give you a voucher, find medicare on your...
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does this mean to he would tackle the deficit? >>> ann romney dishes to ja leno about mitt. >> would you say he is frugal or cheap? >> cheap. >> cheap. really cheap. okay. >> do you want to know what he does when he leave the house? he turns off the h water heat. >>o yo knot hoe w we come back from the house, he forgets he has to turn the hot water heater on, cold shers, they're not that bad. >> indeed. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in new york. dueling messages in ohio where in a few moments both ndides wi beelin ch appearing only about 100 miles from each other but with sharply different messages. as president obama widens his ohio lead in the latest polls, joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, managing editor of post politics.com and "whington po" pic reporter karen tu multi. chris, first talk about the polls. how significant is it the double-digit lead in some polls now, cbs/"new york times" poll the trend first in "the washington post" and our wl street jourl/nbwsols weiso moving fairly steadily into the obama cam
does this mean to he would tackle the deficit? >>> ann romney dishes to ja leno about mitt. >> would you say he is frugal or cheap? >> cheap. >> cheap. really cheap. okay. >> do you want to know what he does when he leave the house? he turns off the h water heat. >>o yo knot hoe w we come back from the house, he forgets he has to turn the hot water heater on, cold shers, they're not that bad. >> indeed. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in new york....
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and you talk about the deficit? the paul ryan budget that mr. romney says is a marvelous budget won't achieve balance until 30 years from now? romney-ryan aren't even fiscally responsible in their plans. all they want to do is to go back to the bush policies. >> let me interrupt. >> the debt just went up astro nommicly under this president. he's moving in the wrong direction. >> thank you both, ted strickland, ken blackwell, appreciate the discussion. thank you. >>> the world is focusing on iran's nuclear program, thanks in part to israel's attention to the issue. but what about israel's nukes? we investigate next. one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. and the c
and you talk about the deficit? the paul ryan budget that mr. romney says is a marvelous budget won't achieve balance until 30 years from now? romney-ryan aren't even fiscally responsible in their plans. all they want to do is to go back to the bush policies. >> let me interrupt. >> the debt just went up astro nommicly under this president. he's moving in the wrong direction. >> thank you both, ted strickland, ken blackwell, appreciate the discussion. thank you. >>>...
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in terms of what how far he will go in curbing the deficit. and addressing the fiscal cliff. and then, he will have an opportunity, he will have basically a whole new administration. his cabinet will be gone. most of the people that he relies on in the white house will be moving on. and so, there's an opportunity for him to really set a new agenda. if he wins by a big margin, which the polls suggest is possible, he'll be less, i think willing to change his operating style. but one of the major criticisms is that he hasn't reached out enough to capital hill. so you may see a president sending both signals of strength, but also offering the olive branch. and if he wins the hispanic vote, 70-30, which is possible, you might see a republican party suddenly willing to address immigration reform because they'll want to get that issue off the table. otherwise, they'll never win another national election. >> i want to advance the point that eleanor just made there, president obama, he's been criticized by some even in his own party, for not being as engaged with members of congress a
in terms of what how far he will go in curbing the deficit. and addressing the fiscal cliff. and then, he will have an opportunity, he will have basically a whole new administration. his cabinet will be gone. most of the people that he relies on in the white house will be moving on. and so, there's an opportunity for him to really set a new agenda. if he wins by a big margin, which the polls suggest is possible, he'll be less, i think willing to change his operating style. but one of the major...
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not just from a foreign policy standpoint, one of the reasons that we have huge deficits is that we have these unpaid wars. the voters also view these foreign issues through a prism of the economy. >> david plouffe, thank you very much. >>> we'll be right back with our powerhouse roundtable in just 60 seconds. it's something you're born with. and inspires the things you choose to do. you do what you do... because it matters. at hp we don't just believe in the power of technology. we believe in the power of people when technology works for you. to dream. to create. to work. if you're going to do something. make it matter. >>> quick change there. george will is off today. but we're joined by donna brazile on the roundtable. matthew dowd. maggie haberman of politico. two former party chairman. former vermont governor, howard dean for the democrats. and former governor haley barbour for the republicans. matthew dowd, let me begin with you, and setting the stage where the race is right now, we see president obama ahead by about five points nationally, right now, ahead in all of the battlegrou
not just from a foreign policy standpoint, one of the reasons that we have huge deficits is that we have these unpaid wars. the voters also view these foreign issues through a prism of the economy. >> david plouffe, thank you very much. >>> we'll be right back with our powerhouse roundtable in just 60 seconds. it's something you're born with. and inspires the things you choose to do. you do what you do... because it matters. at hp we don't just believe in the power of technology....
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there will still be a substantial deficit but it will be much smaller. president obama's main contribution to this $16 billion debt which is -- a $1 trillion debt which is a ten-year figure, projecting out ten years, was the stimulus bill which was $800 billion, which i believe was a good thing to do. i think that that might even be even bigger without it, because it kept people working and paying taxes and off the government payrolls and because it created new jobs and infrastructure in energy. if you look at his annual spending budgets, they are about 2% increases. that's less than the rate of inflation. so i think that the reason that i believe he will win re-election is that we're beginning to recover. we've had a higher rate of job creation since the recession bottomed out, the collapse bottomed out in the middle of 2009, than in the previous eight years, and we are moving in the right direction, and the policies he has advocated are more likely to present a good economic result. that's why if people thought this was just like another recession, he
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all those same polls that show president obama leading and claims to correct the bias, turning romney deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind it is simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say this time, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look a lot like 2008 and this they say is wrong. notice i said this time. back in 2004, democrats complained that the polls which showed george w. bush leading were overestimating the number of republicans who would vote. they were wrong. the polls were right. now, in 2000 al gore said don't believe the polls. polls showed him losing narrowly. polls were right. in fact, it's hard to find an example of the polls on average getting it wrong unless you go back to 1948, when they predicted thomas dewey defeated president harry truman. cnn political contributor ari fleischer joins us. he's an occasional unpaid com
all those same polls that show president obama leading and claims to correct the bias, turning romney deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind it is simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say this time, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look...
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that's been a huge deficit for him over the course of this campaign. no specifics, no details. so i think that is part of the burden he carries next wednesday night. >> i suppose one of the problems for you is that barack obama is in the strange position of being the quite clear favorite. i don't think many incumbent presidents have that going into debates but people say i saw a poll this morning, he's up nearly 60% of americans believe obama will win the debates. that's always a rather precarious place to go into a debate, isn't it, as the clear favorite because expectation levels can often exceed performance. >> that is definitely the case. you know, the president -- we're taking this debate very seriously. we know that there's a certain expectation on our side. we also know what history tells us, that challengers normally win the first debate, just by the fact that they're standing on the stage with the president. that elevates them. and they normally come into these things as underdogs so we're coming into this debate very realistic that mitt romney is likely to win, if he
that's been a huge deficit for him over the course of this campaign. no specifics, no details. so i think that is part of the burden he carries next wednesday night. >> i suppose one of the problems for you is that barack obama is in the strange position of being the quite clear favorite. i don't think many incumbent presidents have that going into debates but people say i saw a poll this morning, he's up nearly 60% of americans believe obama will win the debates. that's always a rather...
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candidates promise they will not increase taxes on the poor and middle class but will make a dent in the deficit. this evening we look at romney's plan which has been called mathematically by one group and the president and his campaign have been all over it. chief national correspondent jim angle gets out his calculator tonight. >> mitt romney's budget plan will hurt the middle class. raising taxes on the average family by up to $2,000. getting a tax break, $250,000 to multimillionaires. >> one might think from this obama ad governor romney is specifically proposing to raise middle class taxes by $2,000. but that's not true. in fact, he penaled just the opposite prompting one romney advisor to blast the notion. >> that is the biggest political lie i have ever seen in my academic career. it's not romney's plan to do that. there is nothing to suggest he would do that. pure fiction. >> $1.2 trillion in tax deductions are claimed every year. everything from home mortgage interest to hundreds of millions and more arcane deductions. romney pledged to lower taxes by 20% for everyone. keep it revenue n
candidates promise they will not increase taxes on the poor and middle class but will make a dent in the deficit. this evening we look at romney's plan which has been called mathematically by one group and the president and his campaign have been all over it. chief national correspondent jim angle gets out his calculator tonight. >> mitt romney's budget plan will hurt the middle class. raising taxes on the average family by up to $2,000. getting a tax break, $250,000 to multimillionaires....
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place that's going to be good for the country, that's a long-term deal so we're not revisiting the deficit and debts every year. that's what we need to be debating. we need to look at what we can do as i said that's comprehensive, that looks at all aspects of the budget, that minimizes the negative impact on both the defense and the domestic side. and we should be working together to do that. >> josh tyrangiel has a question for you, senator. >> senator, how would you characterize the conversations? i'm interested in the mechanic of how these things move forward. are you guys meeting in somebody's office, are you cordial, are things all on the table? are there certain things everybody's announced as let's not touch this? can you talk about how it works? >> well, as i said, this was a group of six of us who met, five of us met fairly regularly for a couple of weeks. it reflects, i think, a number of groups that have been meeting within the senate, trying to see where there are areas of agreement, looking at what we need to do to be as comprehensive as possible to reduce, as many of the pote
place that's going to be good for the country, that's a long-term deal so we're not revisiting the deficit and debts every year. that's what we need to be debating. we need to look at what we can do as i said that's comprehensive, that looks at all aspects of the budget, that minimizes the negative impact on both the defense and the domestic side. and we should be working together to do that. >> josh tyrangiel has a question for you, senator. >> senator, how would you characterize...
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why don't you put up the s "i will cut the deficit in my first term. this is a one-term proposition." >> headline in the "new york times," romney paid a 14% tax rate. they never said he paid almost $2 million in taxes. >> and where is the evidence about the sullying of the religion? what is he basing that on? >> bill: look, he nearly lost his life when he was on a mission. he's donated a fortune to his church and charities. i mean, you know, can you imagine -- just reverse
why don't you put up the s "i will cut the deficit in my first term. this is a one-term proposition." >> headline in the "new york times," romney paid a 14% tax rate. they never said he paid almost $2 million in taxes. >> and where is the evidence about the sullying of the religion? what is he basing that on? >> bill: look, he nearly lost his life when he was on a mission. he's donated a fortune to his church and charities. i mean, you know, can you imagine...
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president, you said you'd cut the deficit in half in your first term. it went up $6 trillion. you called bush unpatriotic for $4 trillion in eight years. simple question. mr. president, you predicted if we passed your stimulus by now we would have created 8 million new jobs. they still have fewer americans working. you know, mr. president, you said you'd b transparent. can we see the cables and wires tomorrow? when can we see them? >> how about this, mr. president you said you were taking our foreign policy in a different direction. the middle east is in flames against america and our ambassador is dead. mr. president, in sudan they will not allow u.s. marines to guard american soil. what do you have to say about that? >> sean: romney has got to understand, they're not going to ask these questions. it's his job to bring it up as of next wednesday. here's andrea mitchell, "nbc nightly news," and she says it's ambassador rice who was sent out with false information that we now know is false, as corroborated by a scrubbed websites at the state department to lie as as did jay carn
president, you said you'd cut the deficit in half in your first term. it went up $6 trillion. you called bush unpatriotic for $4 trillion in eight years. simple question. mr. president, you predicted if we passed your stimulus by now we would have created 8 million new jobs. they still have fewer americans working. you know, mr. president, you said you'd b transparent. can we see the cables and wires tomorrow? when can we see them? >> how about this, mr. president you said you were taking...
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we have increased deficits. we have had unemployment over 8%. the middle class is hurting. and i think he did, thomas, give specifics. he gave his five-point plan how he is going to create jobs in this country. >> but senator, you don't think that we are better off than four years ago when it comes to 43 straight months of job growth, the fact that the auto bailout worked? the fact we have drawn out of the war in iraq and we are now slowly trying to map out the course to leave afghanistan? you don't think that the country is better off than we were four years ago as a whole, collectively? >> since you brought up the foreign situation, i think we are in a much worse position because the president withdrew from iraq and afghanistan without benchmarks that would be required to keep those countries stable when we leave. that's why we are seeing our people being shot by insiders in afghanistan. why things are breaking up in iraq. i don't think the world is safer because of what president obama has done. i think his foreign policy is very -- >> do you think we need to pull out of
we have increased deficits. we have had unemployment over 8%. the middle class is hurting. and i think he did, thomas, give specifics. he gave his five-point plan how he is going to create jobs in this country. >> but senator, you don't think that we are better off than four years ago when it comes to 43 straight months of job growth, the fact that the auto bailout worked? the fact we have drawn out of the war in iraq and we are now slowly trying to map out the course to leave...
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including paul ryan tight-lipped on the specifics of the romney plan to cut taxes but not blow up the deficit. >>> and no animals were harmed in the making of this video. skater dude meet deer. that clip later in the show. first to the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers are split on how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of the attack and why it took so long to acknowledge it was an act of terrorism. some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the attack on the consulate was pa
including paul ryan tight-lipped on the specifics of the romney plan to cut taxes but not blow up the deficit. >>> and no animals were harmed in the making of this video. skater dude meet deer. that clip later in the show. first to the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers...
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mitt romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he's got a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. one of the things that will be interesting wednesday, if he'll finally explain hows had math adds up. he's got a $5 trillion tax cut and nour $2 trillion in defense spending that our defense leaders say they don't need if he's not going to add to the deficit, the middle class better watch out because they're going to pay the burden if he's elected president, because the whole is just too big. so if he says he's not going to burden the middle class, then he's going to blow a hole in the deficit. >> will we see president obama on "meet the press" before election day? >> there's 37 days left. so we'll stay in contact about it. >>> coming up, we talk more about the first debate. what are the stakes for both campaigns. the round table will get into it founder of the faith and freedom coalition, ralph reed, former democratic pennsylvania governor, ed rendell. the bbc's catty kay and nbc's chuck todd. here's what happened... i w
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he's not going to have to overcome 8, 9 point deficits to try to get into it. he needs to go out there and communicate in a clear way where he wants to lead the country. what is the alternative vision that he has vis-a-vis the president and he's been unable to communicate that over the entirety of the election. tonight is one of his last chances to start doing it. >> let me give you another scenario and that is that the president has a good night tonight. he gets it up to 51, as you say, and the other guy is going down and very few opportunities left. that would be a bad night for mr. romney. thank you, howard fineman, and steve schmidt. >>> coming up, how will we know who wins tonight's debate? it's not like there is an official scorecard but experts will look at everything. we'll give you an idea of how to look at this thing realtime. >>> and also caught on tape, yesterday "the huffington post" reported paul ryan saying 30% of americans wanted a welfare state and jumped on joe biden as well saying that the middle class has been buried. the running mates are c
he's not going to have to overcome 8, 9 point deficits to try to get into it. he needs to go out there and communicate in a clear way where he wants to lead the country. what is the alternative vision that he has vis-a-vis the president and he's been unable to communicate that over the entirety of the election. tonight is one of his last chances to start doing it. >> let me give you another scenario and that is that the president has a good night tonight. he gets it up to 51, as you say,...